I wasn’t able to participate but I got to hear and see a lot of good comments and good constructive criticism. I want to address *some* of the criticisms because it will help with understanding. The first thing to note is Ubuntu Lumina Remix is ABSOLUTELY NOT ready for production. There are many bugs that need to be fixed still. One of which is the cause of the ISO delays to the point we are skipping the 20.04 LTS edition full version.]
BDLL (US): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T8mmldP-mw
BDLL (EU): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTCaEe7C3vE
*both streams are in english*
“The GPG key is not existing on the ISO” – This is an issue we are working diligently to fix, but is one that is exhausting to fix. We are not sure why this is happening. We are working to fix it, but we do add the key in several manual and automatic ways.
“Ubuntu Lumina Remix isn’t user friendly” – I am, in all honesty, not trying to make a user friendly remix. Ubuntu Lumina is a project for working on Pine64, RaspberryPi, and when it is time, RISC-V. It is supposed to help use other sections of hardware where Ubuntu lacks in either speed or existence.
“Bloated/Complicated” – This I can kinda agree with. Most of the bloat comes from Lumina having a trillion dependencies. With it being complicated, again I agree. Lumina is a clunky and weird desktop, let’s be honest. Something in the works is a custom welcome application, but this point is overall just kinda valid. But it is a lightweight distribution still.
“Lack of applets” – This is a Lumina issue. The version of Lumina inside of the current ISO doesn’t change anything. This is a work-in-progress thing, but is not a top priority for me. With Lumina, kinda treat it like Fluxbox but more… more.
“Nano is not installed by default” – I agree, cardinal sin (as the person who made the comment said). I have yet to add it to the builder, because it is not a focus. I will try and remember that later. Also, the guy who said it is currently helping with a fix for the GPG issues he complained about. So, the dude isn’t bad, and again, I agree not having Nano is a cardinal sin.
“Vim was not available” – Nor will it ever be. At least, by default. I don’t care for Vim, not including it as Nano will do the basics and you can get Vim if you want it. Nano will be for basic fixes. Like sources fixing and maybe GPG bypassing!
“Kai (me) need to edit the system for squashfs” – Other people made the ISO builder, I package the packages and change the settings.
“Right click for terminal gives a text-editor with title “XTERM”” – No f-ing clue why that happens, makes me angry. I will be removing Terminator as the default, and just using REAL xterm, as I think I set the DE to uninstall Xterm as on first packaging it caused random issues. Maybe that will fix it, but oh well.
Same guy with the more “abrasive” remarks did DM me with an apology, which no need. I take it as they care, and their reason…
The “I feel like it has real potential” made my day more than his tone in the review upset me. Kind dude, he works on DraugerOS. I am kinda just free writing this article, and he sent me that when on that last point. Good dude, and good gaming OS.
“Make it autologin on live-session” – This has a package to fix it in the next version. Not the most “simple” solution, but the more less-effort solution.
“System installer would not format” – Good to know, it works on legacy (as I use that to boot) but it will be something for me to look into.
“From first mention to now” – This isn’t criticism but says a lot about the community. So for those who don’t know (most users probably), I first mentioned Ubuntu Lumina in a live stream Martin Wimpress was doing. With the community response… well… that is an understatement. Our ISO and Torrent Mirrors are both just people who volunteered their time and hosting. This website is thanks to the ItsFoss team helping out, with the co-founder being the driving force to host our website, the project would be practically dead without it. These are the more visible contributions, but the community has been amazing with all sorts of help. Thanks especially to everyone on both BDLL streams, kind man Batcastle from Drauger, Monica (who said this), Martin Wimpress, Alan Pope, Aranym, OpenTorrents, FossHost, Yuki (who does the core of our testing), and a trillion others, especially Joshua from Ubuntu Cinnamon.
“He and his team” (part of the previous comment) – Team? All jokes aside, while I do development alone, the project wouldn’t be possible without our team who work outside of development. Yuki (our tester), ItsFoss (web host), Aranym (ISO mirror), and OpenTorrents (Torrent mirror) are the core team who contribute directly to the project in more than here-and there contribution. They are my team and I couldn’t be more happy with who I got helping me!
Everything said by ComputerKid – He had a lot of comments in 30 seconds. Thanks for the kind words and information. The wifi applet will be added by 21.04, but is not a priority (as a lot is needed in core development, but will be added). With the screensavers, gotta thank the Lumina desktop devs, I love it too. Also, thanks for the “cool things” comment, makes me feel better as this project has been a little depressing at times.
“There has been a lot of spins over the last 6 months” – I started on/off remixing for the past year. I could have beat Joshua in Ubuntu Cinnamon if I wasn’t a lazy newbie. I also do see a lot of remixes this past couple of months, and I feel Ubuntu Cinnamon kinda sparked it. Joshua knows I went through 4 remixes (Cinnamon (my edition, before he actually made one), Pantheon, i3, and then now Lumina). Pantheon was kicked for being complicated to package, and i3 for me getting depressed (with a severe bipolar episode) and quitting. But this has been factual as there is Ubuntu Cinnamon, Ubuntu Lumina, UbuntuDDE, Ubuntu Unity, and UbuntuCDE (which is the newest concept). Also, there were another couple external attempts that did not see the light. That would make 5 active, one inactive (that I know of), and I have to put it as people with inspiration. Ubuntu Cinnamon’s Josh had an idea, which probably inspired everyone else so far to go through with their ideas (even if it was chain inspiration as with UbuntuCDE being inspired by Ubuntu Unity).
“Her name used to be Safir” – This is from Josh. First, I am non-binary, and the mix-match of using he/her is perfectly fine. It was actually pronounced like the gem Sapphire and spelled Safyre. I went with Kai because typing Safyre everywhere isn’t fun. Also, I didn’t want to associate with the name due to a traumatic event I do not wish to post in public but understand I changed it to Kai for a reason. Josh is a good friend.
“There is a lot of work going into making a distro” – As I am working on two (one is more or less an experiment with a fix in my personal life), it does take a lot of work. With Ubuntu Lumina especially is difficult, even with prebuilt tools it is difficult. Thanks to everyone helping and just being nice in general!
Thank you to everyone with a voice, if I missed a couple big points in BDLL Europe, YouTube did cut the stream for me so idk why that happened. But I am sure, still good points (if it was mentioned).